20110424/中国移民公司 逾8成或可造假(附原文及采访实录)

/**文末所收录《环球邮报》采访实录涉及的几家公司分别是北京同创同德、雅凯仕、鲲鹏国际、广州鹰宏**/

世界日报/中国招商银行一份报告指出,六成中国千万富豪已经或正考虑投资移民,且有27%亿万富豪已完成海外投资移民。但根据《环球邮报》(The Globe and Mail)在中国的实际访查,逾八成移民顾问公司表示可造假,协助中国富豪或有犯罪纪录者移民加拿大,并称成功率达百分之百。

《环球邮报》中国办事处员工日前假装成一名50多岁、任职某国营企业品管部门的A君,向22家国内移民顾问公司电话询问如何成功移民加拿大,并称自己薪水不高,但握有数百万美元资产,要求对方在申请过程中不能让自己的财富曝光。

A君向各家业者表示,他符合加国政府要求投资移民须有160万加元净资产的资格,拿出8万加元的投资金额也没问题,但无法提供自有财产的合法取得证明,也没有自申请日起过去至少二年商业管理经验。

A君实际接触的22家移民顾问公司,大部分业者均宣称代办移民成功率达百分之百,其中18家甚至表示,就算有犯罪纪录或坐过牢,都可以为客户弄到“良民证”。一家位于广州的业者还表示,一旦要做,就会做得跟真的一样。

这些业者都会选择一至两家配合公司,为客户提供假收入与报税文件;有八家业者表示具备自制假文件能力;有二家甚至还可提供加国企业出具的假雇用证明,以加速加国政府移民审批程序。

一般来说,中国移民顾问公司提供假文件的收费介于7500至9000加元之间,有业者表示,对于那些想要移民又不愿意资产曝光的人来说,花些小钱达到目的是值得的。该业者进一步指出,许多中国官员都拥有他国护照,但他拒绝透露这些官员的身分。

A君接着表示,他有一个亲戚也想移民,但过去曾因伤人坐过牢,该如何申请?有12家业者表示,尽管坐牢纪录对申请加国移民不利,但他们可以靠“关系”弄到“良民证”,而且要A君别担心,因为加国政府无权向中国的签发单位查证文件真伪。

联邦移民部长康尼(Jason Kenney)接受《环球邮报》采访时表示,要中国协助取缔违法移民顾问公司虽仍有执行难度,但他去年至北京与中国公安部长孟建柱会谈,双方已同意就两国司法事务加强合作,共同打击非法移民顾问业者,相信不久会见成效。

不少中国移民顾问业者无奈地表示,他们也不希望做违法的事,只是中国很多靠房地产致富的富人,大部分都没有完整的财产交易与报税纪录,为了怕财产曝光,在申请移民时都不愿意提供真实文件。

加拿大移民顾问协会主席张瑞恩(John Ryan)向《环球邮报》记者指出,中国官僚体制盛行,移民顾问公司早已熟稔如何靠“关系”行事,对于奉行“透明”与“诚实”的加国政府官员而言,最大的问题就是缺乏辨别文件真伪的能力。

《环球邮报》引述中国官方媒体统计数字,在2009年有2000位中国海外投资移民,总计移转10亿加元资产至加国银行。另外,中国境内大约有400家移民顾问公司,目前只有七家向加拿大移民顾问协会登记。


How China’s ‘crooked consultants’ help the rich enter Canada

MARK MacKINNON
BEIJING— From Saturday’s Globe and Mail
Published Friday, Apr. 22, 2011 9:22PM EDT
Last updated Saturday, Apr. 23, 2011 6:56PM EDT

He is in his 50s and has spent his entire career in the quality-control department of a company owned by the Chinese government. His salary isn’t much, but he has made millions on the side – he won’t say precisely how – and now wants to emigrate to Canada.

There is a special program designed to fast-track immigrants with money to inject into the Canadian economy, but he doesn’t really qualify.

He has the required minimum of $1.6-million in assets. What he doesn’t have are the documents Canadian immigration officials want: neither banking and pay statements to show that his wealth has accumulated gradually and legitimately nor proof that he has paid taxes on it. He also doesn’t have the necessary two years’ experience in managing employees.

In China, however, manufacturing a personal history that will satisfy Immigration Canada is no problem for almost anyone willing to pay.

To overcome his obstacles, the well-off quality-control officer approached 22 China-based immigration consultants for advice. He soon found that his destination is so popular for wealthy people like him that a black market has arisen to generate the forged documents and massaged back stories that so many seem to need.

And the image doctors appear to be good at what they do: Several claim to have a 100-per-cent success rate. “If you make a fake,” observed a consultant in the southern city of Guangzhou, “you should fake it real.”

That admission was surprisingly frank, considering that it was made over the telephone to a caller whose own identity was no more genuine than the one he wanted to have fabricated. In reality, the quality-control officer was a character invented by The Globe and Mail to see just how far people will go to help someone leave China.

Disreputable consultants have long been the subject of controversy in Canada. Just before the May 2 federal election was called, Bill C-35 was read into law, making it illegal for anyone who isn’t unregistered to charge a fee for immigration advice.

But a bigger threat may lurk abroad. More than 80 per cent of the companies The Globe’s counterfeit client asked for help offered to sugarcoat the past, even if it includes a criminal conviction and time in jail.

Immigration Minister Jason Kenney confirms that “crooked consultants” in such places as India, Pakistan and especially China are a problem. “A lot of people,” he said in an interview, “are willing to pay a lot of money to cut corners.”

Canada-China relations thorny

For years, China has been the No. 1 source of newcomers to Canada, and applying as an investor is the fastest route to permanent resident status. Permission to come is often granted within a year.

In 2009, about 2,000 investor immigrants and their families were accepted from China, most of them private citizens drawn by the promise of a better environment, education system and health care.

A report in Friday’s Global Times newspaper found that among those Chinese with at least 100 million yuan (about $15-million) in assets, 27 per cent had already begun the process of emigrating, and another 47 per cent were also considering leaving the country.

Consultants in China say that those being fast-tracked also include public employees, who, like the quality-control officer, are surprisingly well off.

Ying Hong, a Guangzhou firm that bragged of its 100-per-cent success rate, made no secret of helping wealthy bureaucrats. “Many officials take foreign passports,” the agent said, laughing. “But I can’t tell you who.”

China’s relationship with Canada is often thorny, and one of its more charged issues is the claim that Ottawa provides refuge to at least 70 fugitives, including former government officers accused of corruption. Beijing says Canada turns a blind eye to immigrants’ shortcomings if they have money – and then refuses to extradite those who stand accused of serious crimes.

At the top of the most-wanted list is Lai Changxing, who is suspected of masterminding China’s biggest-ever smuggling ring and has been in Canada fighting extradition since 1999. Although he entered on a visitor’s visa and is trying to stay as a refugee, his case has demonstrated how reluctant Canadian courts are to deport people to China, where serious economic crime often results in the death penalty.

Canada, meanwhile, blames Beijing for not cracking down on those who profit by helping dodgy migrants cheat its system.

An estimated 400 firms based in China offer their services to prospective immigrants. Of the 22 approached by The Globe’s fictitious client, no fewer than 18 advised fabricating documents to produce the required background.

Although many suggested he ask someone who owns a company to create the income and tax documentation, eight said they could produce the papers themselves. Two even offered to have a Canadian company speed the process by hiring the applicant, if only on paper.

The fees for all this ranged from 50,000 to 60,000 yuan ($7,500 to $9,000). “We are not charging you 50,000 for doing nothing,” said a representative of Ying Hong, adding that “we have succeeded with clients who have several hundreds of millions in assets, a lot of money, that they can’t report.”

As a further test, The Globe’s client claimed to have a relative who also wanted to emigrate but had an even bigger problem: Several years ago, he served time for stabbing someone in a fight.

Several firms called the jail sentence a deal breaker for immigration to Canada, but 12 of them suggested that a certificate attesting to a clean criminal record can be obtained if a person possesses the right guanxi, which means “relationships” or “connections.”

If the relative were to persuade – bribe, if necessary – someone at his local police station to issue such a certificate, explained an agent at Kunpeng International, a Beijing-based firm, Canadian officials “can’t come to China to check the archives” in person.

Attracting the wealthy

Last year, Immigration Canada doubled both the minimum assets investors need to qualify (from $800,000) and how much each must invest (from $400,000) in a bid to ensure, Mr. Kenney said, that Canada gets “adequate value” for fast-tracking an application. The money is effectively an interest-free loan to the province in which the investor settles, and is later repaid in full.

However, China-based consultants reported no drop-off in either the number of applicants they were seeing or the pace with which the cases were handled by Canadian officials. Quebec has its own immigration program, and was compelled to raise its standards when the federal government did.

Mr. Kenney said the government is reviewing the effectiveness of the new threshold – which still makes coming to Canada cheaper for an investor than going to Australia, the United States or Britain, all of which require an investment of at least $1-million, which isn’t repaid.

But he defended the need to have a fast-track program: “Obviously, we do want to attract high-net-worth individuals. Our hope is they’ll stay in Canada and be a positive force in the economy.” According to a report in a state-run Chinese newspaper, the 2,000 investors who emigrated in 2009 transferred almost $1-billion to Canadian banks.

The minister acknowledged that embassy officials struggle with the sheer volume of applications from China – which accounted for more than 32,000 of the 45,000 the program received in total last year.

He also described as “a challenge” attempts to have Chinese police co-operate in pursuing consultants suspected of fraud, but contended that relations improved after he raised the issue in Beijing last year with Public Security Minister Meng Jianzhu.

John Ryan, chief executive officer of the Canadian Society of Immigration Consultants, agrees that, along with guanxi, the inability of officials to verify documents is at the root of the problem.

But he spent nine years as a consultant in China and observes that the bureaucratic landscape there is very different: “In Chinese culture, they feel that, in dealing with governments, they need an edge. They don’t really understand that, in our Canadian system, they can deal openly and honestly with the government and be dealt with fairly.”

According to Mr. Ryan, staff at the embassy in Beijing – which declined to comment for this article – are “doing yeoman’s work, but the time that they spend on any file is limited. They have limited time to look behind the file, unless there’s something glaring, and those [Chinese immigration consultants] are sophisticated enough to know where the holes are.”

No choice but to cheat

In their own defence, some consultants say they have no choice but to break the rules. Canada, they claim, asks for documents that even legitimately wealthy Chinese are unlikely to possess.

One official, whose company did not suggest doing anything illicit, complained that immigration officials demand a perfect background, something that is rare among those who have become wealthy during China’s wild transition from socialism to a market-oriented economy.

Many of the nouveau riche, the consultant said, earned their money legally through stock trading or because real-estate values have soared in Beijing and Shanghai. So they have the requisite assets but not all the paperwork.

Charles Qi, president of Beijing East J&P Star Consulting Co. and a member of the Canada-China Business Council, said that, if an applicant is determined to leave and knows his acceptance depends on documents he doesn’t have, “he will fake them. What other choice do they have?”

Mr. Kenney rejects the notion that Canada has set the bar too high, saying it is still more difficult to gain residency in the United States and Britain, and that there is no good reason to falsify an application.

But a veteran consultant who divides his time between China and Canada argues that honesty has become a handicap. He said the investor system is now so rife with fraudulent applications that anyone who fails to add some “polish” almost certainly winds up at the back of the line.

“I kept silent for many years and tried to … play by the laws, but I’m almost ready to close my company,” he said, speaking on condition of anonymity. (He fears being harmed for revealing what his competitors do.) Because he won’t cheat, “I can’t compete. People who come to me are unlucky people. They are the ones in danger of refusal.”

Investor immigration

Citizenship and Immigration Canada has set up special “business immigration centres” in nine cities around the world, making investor applications an especially rapid route to permanent residency. Those hoping to use it must:

– Have $1.6-million in assets, which they can show was obtained legally via bank statements and pay stubs. Proof that taxes have been paid is also necessary.

– Prove they have at least two years’ experience in managing either a business of their own or no fewer than five full-time co-workers.

– Sign a declaration of intent to invest at least $800,000 in Canada. The money is managed by CIC and used, according to its website, “to create jobs and help [provincial] economies grow.” It also is returned, without interest, after five years and two months.

– Pass a test to determine whether they can become “economically established” in Canada.

By the numbers

– China is the No. 1 source country for immigration to Canada, with more than 343,000 Chinese gaining permanent resident status between 2000 and 2009.

– Canada accepted 2,872 investor applications in 2009, allowing 7,435 people (including spouses and dependents) to gain permanent residency.

– According to the state-run China Daily newspaper, about 2,000 of the applicants were from China and they transferred nearly $1-billion into Canadian banks.

– Of the estimated 400 immigration consultants based in mainland China, just seven are registered members of the Canadian Society of Immigration Consultants.

With reports by Yu Mei and Shao Guosheng in the Beijing bureau of The Globe and Mail.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/asia-pacific/how-chinas-crooked-consultants-help-the-rich-enter-canada/article1996240/page1/


Read edited transcripts of The Globe’s calls with Chinese consultants
Globe and Mail Update
Published Friday, Apr. 22, 2011 9:31PM EDT
Last updated Saturday, Apr. 23, 2011 10:25AM EDT

These are edited transcripts of four of the nearly two dozen recorded phone conversations The Globe and Mail had with consultants in China about the prospect of our fictional applicant immigrating to Canada via the investor route.

Call 1

Tongchuang Tongde, based in Beijing
Feb. 15, 2011

Globe and Mail: Hello, I’d like to ask about investor immigration.

Which country?

GM: Canada.

There are a few ways. You should have 10 million (yuan) in assets. It costs 1.5 million, and it will take a one year or so. There is another way called warrant of assessment which you will spend about 1 million, equal to 150,000 Canadian dollars. It will also take about a year or so.

GM: Wait a minute. What is the first option?

The first option is a bit stricter. It needs you should have over 10 million assets. And your house and savings should have the identification documents to show them. They will estimate the value. And you will have to spend 1.5 million and won’t get it back. It’s for the federal [program]. And you should also have over three years of executive management experience, such as vice general manager or higher title. The second option is different. There is no condition of your assets. Our Canadian lawyer in Vancouver will help you finding an enterprise and the enterprise will provide the documents for you to immigrate there.

GM: Do you mean you will find me a company over there to provide the deposit for me?

Yes, in other words, the company hires you as their executive manager, but they’re not really hiring you. It costs about 1 million.

GM: Why is the first requiring both of 10 million assets together with 1.5 million, but the second only 1 million?

It’s just different forms. The second also requires executive management experience. Do you own a company or are you the executive manager?

GM: I’m not. I’m working in the department for quality control at a state-owned enterprise.

Oh, a department, that is probably not going to work. You’d better find a company, and say you are the executive manager of the company.

GM: How can I do it?

May I ask your age?

GM: 56.

That’s fine. What is your education?

GM: I have a college degree

That’s also okay. Do you want to go alone or with family?

GM: I want to go by myself first.

I think your situation is fit to the second option, because the first option is quite strict…

GM: You mean you find me a Canadian company to make the documents for me, and I can make it there with the cost of 1 million yuan?

Right.

GM: But I still do not have three years of management experience.

About this, you’d better find a company, enterprise or joint venture.

GM: You mean they will issue me a document to prove…?

Yes

GM: I have a brother who is also considering of immigration (to Canada).

He can’t go together with you. Canadian immigration only allows the spouse or children to immigrate together. Brother or parents need to apply separately. He can apply the same way (as you).

GM: But my brother, you know, has been in prison … that kind of thing…

Oh, that would be probably be a problem … because they require that you show a non-criminal certificate. Can he make one? A non-criminal certificate?

GM: That would be difficult.

Well, he could actually immigrate to Sweden. They do not require a non-criminal certificate. We are also doing this business, and we do it faster. He would have a Swedish working visa first. Four years later, he can immigrate to Sweden.

GM: Not Canada?

Didn’t you say he has a record? Can he make it a non-criminal certificate? If he can’t get it, it is difficult to do it (to Canada). We can’t do it. He can only apply to Sweden. Please leave me your contact details. We welcome you and your brother to come by together when you are free.

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Ya Kai Shi Immigration Consultant Company (Beijing)

Feb. 16, 2011

Can you tell me the approximate value of your assets?

GM: About 9 million.

Then you can consider federal immigration. It requires 1.6 million Canadian dollars assets, which is about 10 million RMB. You need to have two years of executive management experience … Do you have your own company?

GM: Ten million? No. I don’t have company.

Do you have corporate shares or do you have an executive title of manager in a company?

GM: No.

Hmm … what kind of job are you doing?

GM: I’m in the quality control section of an import-export company.

Is it a government department or a private enterprise?

GM: Government.

Basically, Canadian immigration welcomes applicants who have the experience of working in private enterprises. They definitely require two years of executive management experience. Regarding your situation, is it possible for you to find a company which will allow you to attach yourself to them? It means they say that you are working there as an executive manager, or your wife used to be an executive manager in the company, or has the company’s shares. That works too.

GM: It’s not so easy to find…

Have you ever considered other countries?

GM: I feel Canada’s environment is pretty good. I prefer Canada.

If so, there are two options. One is that you need to find a company which can prove you are the executive manager. Our company will help look for a proper company for you and make some documents.

First, we need to be able to prove you are the executive manager of the company, which means you need to provide the relative employment contract, and the pay records of the employees who are under your administration, etc. The main purpose is to prove that you are the executive of that company.

Second, we need to prove your income. Canada needs to see your income details, such as the bonuses from corporate shares, your income, etc. In your case, we can help finding a company and have the necessary procedures done. The second option is B.C. province, which has a kind of working immigration … We will help you find a company in B.C. province of Canada, and that company hires you to work as their executive manager. This company is usually the big one, one of the top 500 in the world. They urgently need a capable and experienced executive manager.

We need to do some procedures, such as they will come to China to interview you. And we need to shoot some still photos and video materials. And you will need to sign a contract with this company. And then we hand those materials to B.C. province’s immigration bureau, so that you could to work there. We help you find the proper company, and certainly you need to pay a sum of money to that company. It costs about 150,000 Canadian dollars.

GM: One hundred and fifty thousand dollars?

You have to understand if a company needs to hire someone from anther country, so it can’t be a small company. Normally, it’s a working visa, but could start applying for the immigration after working for two years over there. But in the second option as I told you, we can directly apply for the immigration for you… .We only charge you 50,000 RMB for our service.

GM: How fast is the first option?

It will also take a year or so, but it requires more strict application materials. First, you need to prove your income. You may have the houses, funds, stocks, and other bank stuff. Your house, we need to take a simple value assessment. But they require us to show the purchase record from when you bought the house.

For example, you have a house valued at four or five million RMB. In the beginning, you paid, for example 300,000, they need to see how this 300,000 comes from, for example, maybe it’s from your salary income. Second, they require you to have two years of management experience… . It requires a lot of documents.

As you have no managing experience, there are many things that our company has to help you to make. First, we need to find you a company; Second, we need to make all of the above materials for you. Our working load is quite heavy.

GM: I have a brother who also wants to immigrate. He has the criminal experience, if that’s the right term for it. Is it easy to have him immigrate with me?

It depends on the situation. House arrest is fine. If he was imprisoned, it takes more effort, because we need to show a non-criminal certificate issued by the local police station. It’s unavoidable. … If he can’t get it, it’s quite troublesome.

GM: How can he…

Well, guanxi (personal connections, or a bribe)… find somebody… the immigration bureau won’t investigate it very strictly. It’s just up to the police station which we can get it issued from. The immigration bureau won’t check whether an applicant really has no criminal record or not, because it is from the government … it has credibility.

(Subsequent call, Feb. 28, 2011)

GM: Do you have a good rate of success?

Quite high. Our company was founded in 2001. Last year we were named one of top 10 agencies in China. It’s quite an award. We are not a small agency. If you have time, you can come over. We have a working licence, etc. You can have a clear view [of us] when you come by.

GM: I heard I will also need to do an interview (with Canadian immigration)?

The federal program has the possibility of an interview. It’s mainly up to how well we prepare the materials and the application. It is possible to have an interview.

GM: Is it easy to pass?

It’s quite easy. Before you head to interview, we will tutor you. The interview is not to test your language skills, but you are quite likely to be asked about your past experience. For example, if we say you are working in the clothes factory of your friend or relative, they may ask the structure and the source of your money. You can answer according to your papers. You can’t say anything else.

For example, if you have five houses, but three of them are worth a combined 10 million, we will only say you have three houses on the application. But you can’t tell them about the remaining two houses during the interview. Don’t say anything that isn’t in your application.

GM: After the [landed immigrant] card is done, will Canada investigate me again?

No. After you receive the immigration paper issued by Canada, you go to the embassy to get your visa. After you get the visa, you go to Canada. When you get off the plane, there is a special immigration bureau office. You need to fill in some forms there. And the green card will be issued to you within two months. All of these are just procedures. There won’t be another investigation into you. You don’t need to worry. As soon as you receive the immigration paper, there won’t be any problems any more.

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Kunpeng International Consultant, Beijing

Feb. 21, 2011

What kind of work are you doing?

GM: I’m in quality control.

Oh, can your assets reach the minimum?

GM: Eleven million yuan? No problem.

Can you tell me something where you acquire such assets?

GM: Some from stocks, some from houses.

Oh, but you are a quality-control position in a state-owned enterprise, right?

GM: Yes.

For someone short of management experience, federal or Quebec investor immigration is not easy to do. Besides, there are some nominee investor immigration programs that I suggest you to consider. They are different tunnels but reach the same result – having a Canadian immigration card. Those programs require less assets, three to four million yuan, but also have the condition of management experience. But we can help you find a way: For example, you may have friends or relatives who own their own company. You can request help from them to issue you some…for example, an executive manager’s position.

GM: Oh, issue a paper to prove …

Yes, you can do it in this way. The management experience is not very strictly required by the provincial immigration bureaus. If you can find a company of your relative or friend, and they can provide you such things as the operating licence, the company’s tax registration certificate, the employment contract between you and the company as well as some papers about what position you are taking in the company, your annual income, etc. If you can make all of these, you can consider the Canadian Nominee Investor Immigration programs.

GM: Okay, I have a cousin who has a criminal record, but he also wants to immigrate.

Ah – it doesn’t work if someone has a criminal record.

GM: Oh, is there any way?

The way, how can I say it, is if he can handle the local police station … By handle, I mean the police station can issue him the non-criminal certificate if he asks. They (Canadian officials) can’t come to China to check in the police archives whether he had a criminal record or not.

GM: Oh, needs to find people?

Certainly. He had the criminal record. Generally, without solid guanxi, they won’t issue him this.

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Ying Hong (Guangzhou)

Feb.25, 2011

Hello, what is your name?

GM: I’m Mr. Li.

Oh, I’m Mr. Li, too. What is your job?

GM: I’m working in quality control.

Do you have experience of doing business?

GM: This, no.

Eh, yeah, we need to make some papers.

GM: Is it easy to do?

Basically, if the client can pass our primary check and we take your case as an investor immigrant, we are basically able to get you (to Canada). One hundred per cent. We have never had clients rejected.

GM: How much is your company going to charge?

Our fee is about 50,000 RMB per family.

GM: What does the 50,000 include?

Things like we help you with translating, handing in the forms, the application procedures and our consulting service.

GM: What about making some papers of being the manager of a company? How much does it cost?

Do you mean to make the fake…?

GM: Uh, yeah…

Oh, that depends on what your background is, because there is an interview. You need to make the relative history. For example, if you say you are working in the auto industry, they may really ask you about the auto industry. You must at least be able to respond. You need to have some years of experience in this occupation. If you can’t answer, you won’t pass. If you make a fake, you should fake it real.

GM: Can your company help me on this?

This we need to talk about in detail. Really, I don’t know your background. Maybe some things are not convenient to talk about on the phone. It’s better if you come up to our company so that we can talk face to face, and see the extent of what we can do for you, because we are best at making solutions for this kind of project. We have been doing the Canadian immigration business for many years. Several thousand successful cases. Maybe some companies have a lower price than ours, but it’s useless if they can’t promise success.

GM: What is your success rate?

One hundred per cent. As long as we receive your down payment, as long as we sign the agreement with you, it is basically no problem, because we won’t charge you if it is not successful. We don’t want to waste our time. If the applicant is very unqualified for immigration, and we take it but fail in the end, we also waste our efforts. So, if our primary check is okay, we will take your case. If you don’t pass our primary check, we will honestly tell you that your case is very hard for us to take. We will not take your money.

Do you really want to go to Canada? Have you considered another country?

GM: I prefer Canada. I have friend over there.

Oh, people like you who are not doing business, we have a good suggestion to you, which is the English EU passport. It requires nothing. You can directly receive the English passport and become the English citizen. With an English passport is very easy to go to Canada. You won’t need a visa.

GM: I want to do Canadian immigration.

You have a problem immigrating to Canada: the explanation of your assets. You are working in the quality control section… . I believe it is impossible to prove where your several million in assets came from. Your company probably pays you a bit over 10,000 each month, I think. How did you save to over three million?

GM: But I got them from other ways…

Other ways equals fake stuff. Fake stuff … will be checked. There are strict checks now.

We have so many procedures we need to do. We are not charging you 50,000 RMB for doing nothing. There are many things we need to package for you, to make for you. We also need to select the materials for your application.

Some things are okay to report, but some need to be hidden. We have helped clients who own several hundred million in assets. That’s a lot of money, but it can’t be reported, you know? If you report 500 million, okay, you need to tell them one by one where the 500 million come from. So if our client owns 500 million, we just say they have 20 million. Twenty million is a bit easier to explain. We need to find paperwork which can prove he earned the 20 million, that’s all. We can’t say he has 500 million, otherwise he has explain where it all came from. That would be super difficult.

GM: Does the 50,000 include all this?

Yes. But some of the third-party charge won’t be included, such as the fee of notarization, delivery, many papers you need to deliver to Canada, the fee to pay lawyer of Canada.

GM: But how can I find a company and ask the company to issue some papers for me?

This stuff takes efforts. The things which are too fake are hard to make, because a lie needs another lie to cover it. A little mistake among them will destroy the whole thing.

GM: But do you have ways?

We do have ways, but we need to talk in person for details.

GM: Have you done many cases like my situation?

Yes, we have. There are government officials we have done. Government officials’ cases are the most difficult to do.

GM: Oh, officials?

Many officials. Now many officials take the foreign passports. (He laughs.) But I can’t tell you who.

GM: Another thing – do [applicants] need to go over to Hong Kong for an interview (with Canadian immigration officials)?

Yes, you need to go for an interview. So we need to give you training. What you can say, and what you shouldn’t say. The materials you bring shouldn’t conflict with the ones you used for the immigration application.

GM: Is it easy to pass?

Basically, if the application has been approved, it will be okay so long as you do not say anything wrong.

GM: When all are done, after I get my [landed immigrant] card, will there be another check in Canada?

No. It’s permanent. English and Canadian (immigration) I recommend, because once they issue it to you, it’s permanent. America and Australia are both temporary. Canada is a good country with a clear policy. Once you reach their conditions, they will issue you a five-year card. You need to stay there for two years of these five years. And then they will extend it for another five years. If you want to apply to change to Canadian nationality, you need to stay there for three years out of the five. After you are a Canadian citizen, it’s okay for you to return to China and stay whatever, 100 years. There’s no problem for you to land in Canada any time you want.

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